Yes; I had just noticed how the tab across the top of the picture reads "Waterhouse; Gather ye rosebuds 1909".

Edit: A threat. That's fantastic.

I think it's Chronus. If not, Ted. Here's my reasoning.

That painting is called Gather Ye Rosebuds While Ye May. It references a poem. The poems first stanza goes like this:

GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.

I think it may be Cronus because of the reference to time in the verse, their name, and their blurb.

If not, I think it's Teddy, because he's the only one I know of that would know offhand such details about art, AND there is also the reference to death in the poem.

Thoughts?

Another useful tool for that sort of thing is Google's image search.

I agree with what you stated, as it seems quite logical. Although if Chronus is the Mafia Rep, that was pretty vague with the similarities in the blurb and messages.

Edit: But also, another thing. The part about "time". Chronus... Cronus... Titan of time, yes? I now see devery's reasoning behind it. Plus what Chronus has in his blurb.

We overlooked this a bit, methinks.


And Chronos/Cronus is Greek/Latin for 'Time'. Sorry for not stating that earlier.

Time is mentioned in both messages. It's not Chronus. Nor is it antidaeophobic. It also seems unlikely that it would be Demotivationalted, because he's not that stupid. Also, is Wildface still including clues in her/his descriptions?

What is your reasoning behind this, Antagonist?

Yes, although it's just as obscure as before.

I can never seem to decode Wildface's hints. ._.

Although Antagonist, I honestly don't see how Cronus doesn't fit to the description...?

Thank you, Wildface. Looking through the art thread, we have deverykid, DemotivationalTed, Carpe Diem and Blaze, who have all posted there, and perhaps would know this painting, or be able to find one to suit their needs - not just DemotivationalTed. However, this being exactly his style, he'd hardly post it if he didn't want us thinking it was him. My reasoning for what, deverykid?

That's actually a really good point. Unless DemoTed was trying to be even more clever, therefore staying a step ahead? I dunno, but it's still a possibility.

Your reasoning for ruling out these people, Ant. I understand your reasoning for Ted now, but not the other two.

Plus, I thought it interesting that a forum search of the word 'nutella' brought up a thread of the council of nutella, of which both Wild and Anti are members. It would be quite the subtle hint for Wild, unless Nutella references nothing.

I think the painting is simply that - a clever, threatening herring. What I'm more interested in is Wildface's description. I find a few things of note.

1. Nutella. The only player to ever mention Nutella is JSan.
2. The only non-dead person mentioned is Blaze.
3. The thing YamiNoKira supposedly said over the phone.
4. The mention of IRC. Perhaps the killer frequents the IRC channel?
5. Stabbed to death by various blunt objects. I think this is just for humour.
6. The killer is still going after users with A.

Hold on a minute while I gather more information - then I'll explain my reasoning. I just need to check a few more people.

Er, with the "message from A", are you stating that you are A? If that is true, then YamiNoKira was not so, contrary to what she/he said in the beginning?

Also, Antagonist, is your theory of anti not being the Mafia Rep purely based off of the assumption that Wild wouldn't choose the same person to be Mafia Rep twice? Or is there something else?

Heh, Devery, I tried searching for the keyword 'Nutella' as well. XD

Nope, not me. I just pulled it from this post because it's a hint to our rep, which could help rule out who Isn't Mafia.

What!? How come I never noticed that!? Ah, well, must of skipped right over it. ._.

Okay, so, why it isn't antifuckingshitlongname: 'favorite'. The Mafia person spells it the US American way. Antidaething doesn't, nor do I. Everyone else does, with the possible exception of Blaze (couldn't find out any information on Blaze.) Furthermore, a thought on the A killings: if the A killings are to go on, if the Mafia is an A-name, they will eventually have to kill themselves. This isn't going to happen, but people will notice the change in pattern, so presumably the killer's name does not start with an A.

Edit: Now, as you try to decipher the message in A's clue, consider this: do you really want the Mafia person to know how you found it so they can find it too and then kill the rep? No. Shut up and keep it to yourself.

That's quite brilliant.

Seems to me that Blaze has been a pretty mysterious figure so far regarding to these types of things.

Right, so my phone's about to die. I think I'll see how things are tomorrow.

Oh, never mind. Blaze is on the US American list as well.

Why is Chronus ruled out, for you?

You're a clever girl. Figure it out. Or, alternatively, trust me - if I was the Mafia, I wouldn't defend anybody. At the moment, my money's on JSan or Blaze.

Imon psp, so forgive what little i can add.
1. The users out of us that frequent IRC are me, Ted, and Anty(although anti came in recently)
2. Anty pointed out art thread users, although i only posted about lady godiva iirc, maybe the mafia is trying to throw us off. As we all know Ted LOVES art.
Again, sorry for the short post.
And as for me being a mystery, i don't frequent the forum as much in the last few months, but i think i made it clear im american :P
EDIT: Im suspected? Sweet. :D

Double post, as my psp has a character limit. The IRC hint could be void. Wild isn't on there at all, and he chose someone(in the story) who isn't either. So this may have been meant to sidetrack us.

Huh, apparently a lot happened while I was fast asleep...damn time zones.
First of all, I would like to congratulate the Mafia Representative for coming up with such a clever message that has, at first sight, incriminated myself. Unfortunately, they made it too obvious. I mean, just look at it. If I were the Mafia Representative I wouldn't have made it look so damn obvious that it was me, especially because the Pre-Raphaelite Movement (John William Waterhouse included) is by far my favorite. [I prefer the work of John Everett Millais and Dante Rossetti, just for future references ;)] But still, I congratulate you, whoever you are.

The conclusions which I can draw from this hint are that whoever the Mafia is, knows me and, as Antagonist said, they probably read the Art Thread and maybe even posted in there. My two main suspects are deverykid and Carpe Diem. Blaze was also one of them, but after thinking about it, I figured that this isn't his style at all and that he wouldn't have posted a painting of girls picking flowers. Just saying...it doesn't seem to be his style.

Carpe Diem might just be the Mafia Representative because I've noticed her activity in the Art thread before and also I noticed her inclination towards mysterious messages since the Marble Hornets incident. Both her and deverykid accused Chronus as being the Mafia Representative just because in the hint there is a little reference about time. Well, there is one in A's hint also but that doesn't mean he is the Civilian Representative. Also, there is this little thing that I believe was posted before artsygirl's murder.

This little detail might explain why artsygirl was the Mafia's victim. If, let's say, Carpe was the Mafia and she didn't see A's clue, that would explain why she didn't kill someone more "A like" and killed her instead. It's just a thought and it might not mean anything. Plus, I know that Carpe some sort of alibi which makes me believe that she isn't J.W.W. She knows something about me from the last game that might have made her kill me in this one...

My second suspect is deverykid. From her posts you can see that she seems to want to get Chronus killed. What do we know about Chronus? Well, nothing. Then why would she be so eager to kill them? Maybe she found out something from A's clue that makes her want to kill them, if deverykid is actually the Mafia. Also, J.W.W. and deverykid seem to share the same speech patterns, and I know from past experiences that deverykid isn't so good at changing the way she expresses herself while posting on a different account.