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{ "thread_id": "11538", "posts": [ { "id": "1173510", "time": "1634163365", "html": "Just anything about history. <br /><br />I don't care if this thread becomes a place where people copy and paste Wikipedia articles. <br /><br />I have a question: When the Muslims wiped the Sassanid Persian Empire off the map, the royal family of the empire eventually fled to China. What happened to them in China? Were they incorporated?", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1173731", "time": "1634223868", "html": "Wait legit, the sassanids fled to china after/during the muslim conquest of persia? That's so cool.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1173739", "time": "1634226106", "html": "I think they became integrated as part of the governors of Canton.<br /><br />This shielding of the Tang of the Sasan royal family was the beginning of their conflicts. The Arabs and Chinese ultimately clashed at the Battle of Talas.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1174038", "time": "1634315480", "html": "and the battle of which china never recovered from, as the arabs completely put an end to china's westward expansion after that<br /><br />lemme tell you the arab empire was not a force to be reckoned with they toppled both the byzantine and persian empires<br /><br />what i coincidence im just learning this in world history right now", "user": "titanlord237" }, { "id": "1174047", "time": "1634315772", "html": "Just learned about that, like, a week ago in World History as well.", "user": "ebag" }, { "id": "1174049", "time": "1634315997", "html": "damn bro do we go to the same school", "user": "titanlord237" }, { "id": "1174054", "time": "1634316206", "html": "Not unless you live in Nebraska.", "user": "ebag" }, { "id": "1174096", "time": "1634321385", "html": "I learned this by reading a book a month ago. And I'm a freshman.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1174098", "time": "1634321553", "html": "you're such a precocious child, licky<br /><br />proud of you <3", "user": "titanlord237" }, { "id": "1175148", "time": "1634765368", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/titanlord237\">Titanlord237</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">lemme tell you the arab empire was not a force to be reckoned with</div></div><br />Civil war exists.<br /><br />Also, "not?" Take out that "not"", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1197909", "time": "1645321168", "html": "Just how many Armenians were there in ancient times? It seemed like a very fought-over region between the Roman Empire and the Persian Empires. Armenia was a source of manpower.<br /><br />My favorite Roman Emperor is Heraclius. I feel sorry for him, also. His reign was affected by forces he couldn't control or know about.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1197912", "time": "1645321962", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/titanlord237\">Titanlord237</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">lemme tell you the arab empire was not a force to be reckoned with they toppled both the byzantine and persian empires</div></div>The Arabs didn't topple the Byzantine Empire, that was the Turks.<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/wlicky\">W_Licky</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">I have a question: When the Muslims wiped the Sassanid Persian Empire off the map, the royal family of the empire eventually fled to China. What happened to them in China? Were they incorporated?</div></div>They tried to get Persia back with China's help, China lost interest, and eventually they assimilated.", "user": "millpond" }, { "id": "1197947", "time": "1645327532", "html": "The Arabs diminished Byzantine power greatly but the Byzantines would survive and flourish more like a kingdom rather than an empire. The Ottoman Empire was the final blow, but I think the real blow was the Fourth Crusade.<br /><br />But the Sassanids got wiped by the Muslim armies.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1198141", "time": "1645423026", "html": "I think the <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests\">Arab Empire(s)</a> were partly good timing, because the Byzantine and Persian Empires had been fighting each other for a few centuries and were both worn out from it. Then the Arabs spring out of the Arabian peninsula catching them both unawares. Persia falls completely, Byzantium doesn't fall but the Arabs grab a few choice cuts like Egypt and Syria.", "user": "millpond" }, { "id": "1198154", "time": "1645456301", "html": "Don't forget Carthage. Choice cuts? They took their agricultural lands and ended Roman bread and circuses. And it was like half of the Byzantine Empire. Not to mention, this means that three patriarch cities are in Muslim hands.<br /><br />The two empires were exhausted from the last Roman-Persian war. The Arabian peninsula had never been of much interest or concern for them. There were also Romans in Mesopotamia when the Arabs attacked.<br /><br />The Persians had succession crisis, and Heraclius could do nothing, because he was in a coma for some time.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1198157", "time": "1645457820", "html": "The Arabs had mostly kept to their own peninsula before they became Muslim. You do hear about them being hired as mercenaries in other conflicts, for example Constantinople hired Arabs to help defend it <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Constantinople_(378)\">when the Goths attacked</a>. The Arabs would <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Masts\">later on</a> try to <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(674%E2%80%93678)\">take Constantinople</a> four times, <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(717%E2%80%93718)\">but fail</a>.", "user": "millpond" }, { "id": "1198161", "time": "1645462438", "html": "I think the Sassanid Persians tried to siege Constantinople during the last Roman-Persian War, but you really can't do much from across the Bosphorus. Their allies, the Avars, were on the European side, but did nothing to improve anything.<br /><br />The Arabs tried but failed. <br /><br />Then again, everyone failed besieging Constantinople until Mehmed II the Conquerer. The Fourth Crusade just got lucky when both sides were being stupid.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1200891", "time": "1646244464", "html": "Italy is not the Roman Empire! Italians are not Romans. They left the Romans in the east, where they eventually morphed into a Greek culture.", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1274352", "time": "1678141361", "html": "I want to post more History facts here.<br /><br />After Cicero died in 43 BC, his former slave honored him through publication of his former master\u2019s works. His name was Marcus Tullius Tiro. He is known for likely inventing an early form of shorthand.<br /><br />Also, I\u2019ll elaborate on the Persians in China soon", "user": "wlicky" }, { "id": "1274370", "time": "1678143400", "html": "Yazdegerd III, the last Sassanian King of Kings, met his end at the edge of the Persian Empire, in Bactria. Killed by a miller for his purse/jewelry. Amusing.<br /><br />His family, the royal house of the Sassanian Dynasty, led by the head Peroz III, escaped and traveled to the Tang Dynasty, as the area was under Chinese dominance. The Tang had been expanding very far west at that point. Likely going through the Anxi Protectorate, the majority of the imperial family went Chang'an, the capital of China. The Chinese emperor at the time was Emperor Gaozong (very interesting history for him too, he was the husband of future Empress Regnant Wu Zetian).<br /><br />Gaozong was a very kind man, and was sympathetic to the Persians so he allowed the Sassanian refugees to settle in the imperial capital. Peroz III got himself a job as governor of a western region near his father's former empire. The attempts to take back Persia all failed.<br /><br />More stuff happened bt history gets hazy here. When Peroz III died, his son Narseh took his place. Narseh went to Persia and spent much of his life in Tokhara.<br /><br />Bahram VII, a brother to Peroz III and a son of the last Persian shahanashah, also had a son himself named Khosrau, who fought against the Arabs. Narseh also fought the Arabs for his life.<br /><br />The descendants of the Persian imperial family lived on in Chang'an comfortably until the An Lushan rebellion, which drained anything the Tang could do for foreigners.", "user": "plutosad" } ], "users": { "wlicky": { "name": "W_Licky", "key": "wlicky", "url": "/users/wlicky", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/42716.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "11243" }, "antimonypentafluoride": { "name": "antimony pentafluoride", "key": "antimonypentafluoride", "url": "/users/antimonypentafluoride", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/31054.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "4846" }, "titanlord237": { "name": "Titanlord237", "key": "titanlord237", "url": "/users/titanlord237", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/25014.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "9134" }, "ebag": { "name": "e-bag", "key": "ebag", "url": "/users/ebag", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/42500.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "11309" }, "millpond": { "name": "Millpond", "key": "millpond", "url": "/users/millpond", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/31430.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "790" }, "plutosad": { "name": "Pluto Sad", "key": "plutosad", "url": "/users/plutosad", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/40382.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "224" } }, "page_num": 1, "locked": 0, "total_pages": 1 }

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