Two Cans & String

{ "thread_id": "11962", "posts": [ { "id": "1227993", "time": "1657647176", "html": "If you spend more than an hour total a day on social media, stop. Any social media. At all. It\u2019s bad for you, I\u2019m not the first one to tell you it\u2019s bad for you, you know it\u2019s bad for you, you know you should find something healthier to do with your time, and you\u2019ve probably even said something like \u201cI should stop doing this so much\u201d at least once before. Pick up a hobby instead. Like meth. Or a book. Like anything by Marquis de Sade. <br /><br />With the slow day at work, my hour\u2019s up. See y\u2019all tomorrow if I get around to it.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1227994", "time": "1657654546", "html": "I dunno how to stop. I spend way too much time on my phone", "user": "noiwillnot" }, { "id": "1227996", "time": "1657660879", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/antimonypentafluoride\">antimony pentafluoride</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">If you spend more than an hour total a day on social media, stop. Any social media. At all. It\u2019s bad for you, I\u2019m not the first one to tell you it\u2019s bad for you, you know it\u2019s bad for you, you know you should find something healthier to do with your time, and you\u2019ve probably even said something like \u201cI should stop doing this so much\u201d at least once before. Pick up a hobby instead. Like meth. Or a book. Like anything by Marquis de Sade.<br /><br />With the slow day at work, my hour\u2019s up. See y\u2019all tomorrow if I get around to it.</div></div><br /><br />I don't wanna.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228074", "time": "1657747845", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/noiwillnot\">noiwillnot</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">I dunno how to stop. I spend way too much time on my phone</div></div>You\u2019re holding a computer. You\u2019re basically holding the world\u2019s biggest and most up to date library in your pocket. There\u2019s even games on it. There\u2019s porn too. There\u2019s so many things to do with it other than mindlessly read and listen to other people talk.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228075", "time": "1657748217", "html": "No there isn't.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228076", "time": "1657749352", "html": "there are so many things to do without a phone in general.", "user": "yeah4578" }, { "id": "1228116", "time": "1657779874", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/antimonypentafluoride\">antimony pentafluoride</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">You\u2019re holding a computer. You\u2019re basically holding the world\u2019s biggest and most up to date library in your pocket. There\u2019s even games on it. There\u2019s porn too. There\u2019s so many things to do with it other than mindlessly read and listen to other people talk.</div></div><br />I dont use social media to chat, more just to watch stuff. but I still do spend too much time on it", "user": "noiwillnot" }, { "id": "1228121", "time": "1657786967", "html": "Multitasking. I'm on TCaS, but I'm also listening to music, smoking weed, petting a cat, and hanging out with friends. Does that count towards my hour?", "user": "skeepskorp" }, { "id": "1228140", "time": "1657805633", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/skeepskorp\">skeepskorp</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">Multitasking. I'm on TCaS, but I'm also listening to music, smoking weed, petting a cat, and hanging out with friends. Does that count towards my hour?</div></div>\u2026You\u2019re high! Looking at the problems of modern society while you\u2019re high is scary. Wouldn\u2019t you rather be engaged in socialising with your friends and petting your cat and getting lost in your own head than running away from it? A book for you, Mr., Ms. or Mx. pothead. It\u2019s impossible to not like while high.<br /><br /><a href=\"https://wikischool.org/_media/be_here_now.pdf\">Be Here Now</a>.<br /><br /><div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/thereisnoeleven\">There is no eleven!!!</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">No there isn't.</div></div><a href=\"https://books.google.com/\">https://books.google.com/</a> Have at it.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228142", "time": "1657806747", "html": "I communicate with many of my friends through social media.", "user": "antagonist" }, { "id": "1228143", "time": "1657808412", "html": "Okay I\u2019m talking way way less about texting people and way more about reading through Facebook comments and Twitter feeds and the like. Not talking to people you already know well.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228147", "time": "1657810223", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/antimonypentafluoride\">antimony pentafluoride</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\"><div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/skeepskorp\">skeepskorp</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">Multitasking. I'm on TCaS, but I'm also listening to music, smoking weed, petting a cat, and hanging out with friends. Does that count towards my hour?</div></div>\u2026You\u2019re high! Looking at the problems of modern society while you\u2019re high is scary. Wouldn\u2019t you rather be engaged in socialising with your friends and petting your cat and getting lost in your own head than running away from it? A book for you, Mr., Ms. or Mx. pothead. It\u2019s impossible to not like while high.<br /><br /><a href=\"https://wikischool.org/_media/be_here_now.pdf\">Be Here Now</a>.<br /><br /><div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/thereisnoeleven\">There is no eleven!!!</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">No there isn't.</div></div><a href=\"https://books.google.com/\">https://books.google.com/</a> Have at it.</div></div><br />No.<br /><br /><div style=\"color:#fff;padding:4px;border:1px solid #888;\"><div style=\"font-style:italic;color:#888;\">Spoiler text below. Highlight to read.</div><div style=\"padding:4px;border:1px solid #888;\">I actually don't spend any time on social media. Cept Twitter and that's just for sports news. </div></div>", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228148", "time": "1657812147", "html": "I feel like there should be more nuance to this conversation. Social media is pretty horrible for your mental health, but communication and interaction isn't. These things could maybe be fixed to be more healthy as platforms but profit drives them away from making the consumer have a safer time on their apps. Facebook at least has done tons of research about how bad their platforms are for people and how it makes users feel bad about themselves, but to blame that greater issue on users feels like the wrong approach.<br /><br />You're telling overweight people to eat less ice cream and they legitimately enjoy aspects of it even if there's some poison in there. You're not wrong maybe, but their mental health is affecting the ability to make that decision. Be present, don't use it while hanging out with friends or family unless you're sharing something with them. Don't use it too often or for too long at a time. Be healthier, be nicer to yourself, all those things. BUT, you're acting like that's an easy choice for people when it's become an emotional crutch. The algorithmic content we are being served at this point is a much bigger problem than personal choices.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228149", "time": "1657812975", "html": "He also said take up meth. Pretty sure there's some cheek in play.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228150", "time": "1657813521", "html": "Yeah but it's still weird to me when people encourage individual changes as answers to systemic problems. Social media stuff especially is a weird monster.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228151", "time": "1657813608", "html": "Well I'd imagine it's because an individual does have the capacity to make lifestyle changes and can't stop FB and Tik Tok from existing.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228154", "time": "1657815473", "html": "Well everyone I've ever talked to about this stuff acts like it's an insult to their character to ask them to make those lifestyle changes, so I'm assuming a level of unhealthy in the users already. I guess that isn't a fair assumption on this website, but a lot of my family have become super unhealthy post-tiktok. It's weird to see it happening real time and think they have any agency in it, but you're right that they probably have more choice than they are exercising.<br /><br />I guess I like to assume these people are victims so I can ignore their propensity for this behavior.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228155", "time": "1657816369", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/tinmansgirl27\">TinmansGirl27</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">Yeah but it's still weird to me when people encourage individual changes as answers to systemic problems. Social media stuff especially is a weird monster.</div></div>When someone\u2019s addicted to cigarettes, we tell them to stop smoking and find ways to help them stop smoking. We don\u2019t throw our hands in the air and go \u201cwell it\u2019s a bigger problem than just that because the societal issues around tobacco companies so you can\u2019t just tell someone to stop smoking.\u201d", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228156", "time": "1657816641", "html": "Correct, but before smoking was well known as a major issue or while it was still well accepted in society, you don't think people were treated poorly for asking folks not to smoke?<br /><br />The general attitude and tone in a room changes if you bring this stuff up right now, I'm not saying it shouldn't be brought up but I'm saying there is a lot of conversation to be had about what we can do politically to help alleviate the problem. Regulation of cigarettes and warning labels had to start becoming a thing because it was getting so bad, I don't doubt we will see something similar online soon.<br /><br />Edit - what I'm getting at is that we don't have warning labels, mass regulation, and "truth" ads yet about this addiction. I'm not sure it's as easy to convince people of how bad something is when they don't know how much it's hurting them. The societal knowledge of that is lacking.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228160", "time": "1657818150", "html": "You mean back in the days when the concept of addiction was still vague and doctors advised patients to smoke? Yeah I think we\u2019re far enough beyond that to know to not avoid talking about a problem until it becomes so bad that billions of dollars get spent on proving that something obviously bad for you is bad for you and government has to step in and force companies to tell consumers it\u2019s bad for you. We got to where we needed those labels and Truth advertisements by doing exactly that: not talking about the fact it\u2019s a problem.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228161", "time": "1657818650", "html": "People don't think it's a problem. We are even becoming explicit in society right now about how dangerous it is for your mental health and privacy, but people brush it off over and over again. I don't think people are taking it seriously at all, so it's a good idea to educate the ones close to you on why it's dangerous, of course! But, it is also a good idea to figure out what else can be done to educate people and motivate them politically on a larger scale.<br /><br />Also, companies are absolutely not interested in educating you on the problems in their products until absolutely forced to.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228162", "time": "1657820003", "html": "i love social media", "user": "stripes" }, { "id": "1228172", "time": "1657824976", "html": "I way more agree with AP on this. There's nothing wrong with an adult telling other adults that they shouldn't do things that are bad for them. Personal accountability exists.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228176", "time": "1657828918", "html": "I use tiktok a lot, probably too much. its addictive and I've found that it makes my attention span extremely low. when a video comes on that takes too long to get to the point, I skip it.", "user": "noiwillnot" }, { "id": "1228177", "time": "1657828954", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/thereisnoeleven\">There is no eleven!!!</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">I way more agree with AP on this. There's nothing wrong with an adult telling other adults that they shouldn't do things that are bad for them. Personal accountability exists.</div></div>I'm not disagreeing with that, I've just been treated like shit for saying it so I think it's not that simple. I can't avoid these people, and they are addicted to an unhealthy extent to something that is still considered normal/non-harmful as far as they are all concerned.<br /><br />These are the same people who got mad at me for saying vaping is harmful to them, even if it's not as bad as cigarettes, and that the way in which it's being treated as "totally okay and healthy" was pretty disingenuous.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" } ], "users": { "antimonypentafluoride": { "name": "antimony pentafluoride", "key": "antimonypentafluoride", "url": "/users/antimonypentafluoride", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/26519.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "4376" }, "noiwillnot": { "name": "noiwillnot", "key": "noiwillnot", "url": "/users/noiwillnot", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/34285.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "2767" }, "thereisnoeleven": { "name": "There is no eleven!!!", "key": "thereisnoeleven", "url": "/users/thereisnoeleven", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/34200.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "105" }, "yeah4578": { "name": "yeah4578", "key": "yeah4578", "url": "/users/yeah4578", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/30179.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "297" }, "skeepskorp": { "name": "skeepskorp", "key": "skeepskorp", "url": "/users/skeepskorp", "avatar": "/images/white.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "8" }, "antagonist": { "name": "Antagonist", "key": "antagonist", "url": "/users/antagonist", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/27059.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "7025" }, "tinmansgirl27": { "name": "TinmansGirl27", "key": "tinmansgirl27", "url": "/users/tinmansgirl27", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/33256.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "5873" }, "stripes": { "name": "stripes", "key": "stripes", "url": "/users/stripes", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/24813.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "1816" } }, "page_num": 1, "locked": 0, "total_pages": 2 }

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