Two Cans & String

{ "thread_id": "11962", "posts": [ { "id": "1228178", "time": "1657830801", "html": "***See my edit at the bottom. <br /><br />That\u2019s <span style=\"font-style:italic;\">why</span> you\u2019re being treated like shit when you bring it up, yo. People who have a problem with using something too much to the point it\u2019s bad for them don\u2019t ever like having it being pointed out, so much so that they\u2019ll become hostile. Even people addicted to hard drugs like opioids, most of whom flat out know they have a problem no matter how much they try to deny it, will get like this when you point it out. It\u2019s so much easier to depend on an unhealthy crutch than it is to take the effort to change the things that got you there in the first place. Not talking about the problem is almost the same as being an enabler. That\u2019s not good for anyone, especially not your friends.<br /><br />Edit: okay I read your first sentence again. If I\u2019ve been treating you like shit then please know that I\u2019m very sorry. I agree with you that no problem like widespread addiction is ever as simple as just telling people to stop, but we can\u2019t <span style=\"font-style:italic;\">NOT</span> tell them that it\u2019s bad for them.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228179", "time": "1657832071", "html": "No, don't worry about that. I mean people in real life treat me that way. I'm not feeling defensive as far as the discussion here goes.<br /><br />To summarize, a lot of my family are losing parts of themselves to misinformation and social media addiction. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, so I think we have to be careful how we talk to people about it, just like any addiction. What I am having a hard time with is that "interventions" exist because most people agree that something is bad. How do you stage an intervention as one person against a family of 8-10? It's a touchy subject, for sure.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228181", "time": "1657835421", "html": "Yeah. Drug addicts go right for the throat if you try to keep them from their feel goods.", "user": "thereisnoeleven" }, { "id": "1228374", "time": "1658157050", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/tinmansgirl27\">TinmansGirl27</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">No, don't worry about that. I mean people in real life treat me that way. I'm not feeling defensive as far as the discussion here goes.<br /><br />To summarize, a lot of my family are losing parts of themselves to misinformation and social media addiction. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, so I think we have to be careful how we talk to people about it, just like any addiction. What I am having a hard time with is that "interventions" exist because most people agree that something is bad. How do you stage an intervention as one person against a family of 8-10? It's a touchy subject, for sure.</div></div>Frankly that\u2019s where I\u2019m at these days too and I think the answer to \u201cHow do you stage [\u2026].\u201d is \u201cyou don\u2019t.\u201d It\u2019s like telling someone over the phone that they need to go to a doctor when you know they\u2019re not gonna go to a doctor. When someone calls me and is throwing up or complaining about something that they actually can\u2019t fix on their own and need a doctor\u2019s help but won\u2019t listen to \u201cgo to the doctor\u201d, then I just start making fun of them.<br /><br />Some people might be hopeless lost causes, sure, but it\u2019s still an issue that warrants talking about.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228391", "time": "1658176952", "html": "I want to be able to educate people, make a bigger impact about issues they may not be aware of, and encourage them to make more informed decisions about things. So many people are actively avoiding information that makes them feel poorly, including current news or health concerns and it just turns into a level of apathy I can't respect.<br /><br />"oh everything sucks and always has, privacy concerns are always there, the news is always lying to us" etc as if there aren't ways to be more thoughtful about your interactions with it. It's hard to know how to talk to the people who don't care. Even educating those who disagree with you can be a little easier than trying to talk to a wall. Having opinions means they still seem to give half a shit about the world (possibly only the world that affects them, but still). It's just exhausting.", "user": "tinmansgirl27" }, { "id": "1228402", "time": "1658188813", "html": "I think it\u2019ll really help whenever something like \u201csocial media addiction\u201d (or similar terminology) finally becomes considered a disorder unique to substance abuse. Until then it\u2019ll just be like telling early 20th century westerners that it\u2019s a bad idea to smoke cigarettes and drink a lot.", "user": "antimonypentafluoride" }, { "id": "1228716", "time": "1659132266", "html": "Internet is still in its infant state, we've made such huge strides in the last 30 years it really is a brand new world. I grew up with dial up and America online, and now in many places its everywhere at the touch of a button inside of your pocket.<br /><br />In a lot of ways the technology went way faster than the culture could keep up and now for the first time in the history of the world we have children who are growing up with mini computers connected to the internet inside their pockets and we really gotta deal with the ramifications of this as a society before all the people die off who remember what it was like to have humanity exist without the internet.<br /><br />The biggest danger with an inundation of social media at a young (or really any) age is that it can take over the "human connection" parts of your brain.<br /><br />I know people who can be together, in person, with people, but they'll feel lonely if their phone isn't having some kind of interaction with them. For this reason alone, I've found its a healthy idea to limit my social media use.<br /><br />That said, to keep up with the times, I've been practicing using it more so that I don't get left behind, so I'm on there every day at some points, but there are many points where I'm just not on or checking it for hours so I've found a pretty good balance for myself.", "user": "waterphoenix" }, { "id": "1228980", "time": "1659586280", "html": "<div style=\"margin:20px; background-image:url(/images/light.png);\"><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:5px;\"><a href=\"/users/antimonypentafluoride\">antimony pentafluoride</a> said:</div><div style=\"border:1px solid #888; padding:20px;\">If you spend more than an hour total a day on social media, stop. Any social media. At all. It\u2019s bad for you, I\u2019m not the first one to tell you it\u2019s bad for you, you know it\u2019s bad for you, you know you should find something healthier to do with your time, and you\u2019ve probably even said something like \u201cI should stop doing this so much\u201d at least once before. Pick up a hobby instead. Like meth. Or a book. Like anything by Marquis de Sade. </div></div><br />you're right, antimony. social media has personally caused me many problems with my social life. it has stunted my ability to function naturally in society. in fact, it leads me to become bitter at the fact that other people seemingly lead happier lives than me. such a thought is delusional and stemmed from an unhealthy relationship with social media usage. that much i agree with wholeheartedly. if any of you out there are struggling with social anxiety or loneliness i strongly urge you not to use social media as a crutch. it can never match the interaction you get with people in real life. plus, there are a lot of weirdos out there in the internet who could really hurt you. stay safe, you know? look out for yourself first.", "user": "archidamus" }, { "id": "1228997", "time": "1659632756", "html": "Does browsing the forum count as using social media", "user": "eric616" }, { "id": "1228998", "time": "1659633612", "html": "I kind of agree with OP - That being said, my social life is virtually non-existent anymore these days so I'm not sure how else to find people to talk to without social media anymore.", "user": "ddonde" } ], "users": { "antimonypentafluoride": { "name": "antimony pentafluoride", "key": "antimonypentafluoride", "url": "/users/antimonypentafluoride", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/31054.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "4843" }, "tinmansgirl27": { "name": "TinmansGirl27", "key": "tinmansgirl27", "url": "/users/tinmansgirl27", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/33256.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "6206" }, "thereisnoeleven": { "name": "There is no eleven!!!", "key": "thereisnoeleven", "url": "/users/thereisnoeleven", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/34155.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "572" }, "waterphoenix": { "name": "Water Phoenix", "key": "waterphoenix", "url": "/users/waterphoenix", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/17022.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "9369" }, "archidamus": { "name": "Archidamus", "key": "archidamus", "url": "/users/archidamus", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/34350.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "7" }, "eric616": { "name": "Eric-616", "key": "eric616", "url": "/users/eric616", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/7815.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "3125" }, "ddonde": { "name": "DDonde", "key": "ddonde", "url": "/users/ddonde", "avatar": "/uploads/drawn/6538.png", "rankClass": "civilian", "rankText": "", "posts": "47" } }, "page_num": "2", "locked": 0, "total_pages": 2 }

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